Dia dhaoibh,

Táim ag iarradh an 'perfect past tense' a chur leis an Modh Coinníolach, agus níl mé ag éirí go maith leis.

An abairt Béarla ná:

'If we hadn't gone to the same place on Erasmus, I wouldn't have known her at all (I wouldn't know her at all)'.

Muna ndeachaigh muid go dtí an áit chéanna ar Erasmus, ní bheadh aithe agam uirthi ar chor ar bith

agus an abairt chéanna san fhoirm táscach:

'If we had gone to the same place on Erasmus, I would have known her a lot better'

Dá rachamais/dá dtéimis go dtí an áit chéanna ar Erasmus, bheadh aithne níos fearr agam uirthi

Is the Irish for 'I wouldn't have known her at all / I wouldn't know her at all' are the same because we don't have perfect tenses like English and French?

Bheinn buíoch as aon cuidiú!

Tá an ceart agat a Áine, níl aon difríocht idir an modh coinníollach agus an modh coinníollach foirfe.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

Yes, but shouldn't the clauses governed by muna and dá also be in the conditional since they represent hypothetical circumstances that can't actually occur?

Here is what I mean:

Muna rachamais (Mara ngabhadh muid (GC)) go dtí an áit chéanna ar Erasmus, ní bheadh aithne agam uirthi ar chor ar bith.
"If we hadn't gone to the same place on Erasmus, I wouldn't have known her at all (I wouldn't know her at all)'"

Dá rachamais (Dhá ngabhadh muid (GC)) go dtí an áit chéanna ar Erasmus, bheadh aithne i bhfad níos fearr agam uirthi.
"If we had gone to the same place on Erasmus, I would have known her a lot better"

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Oh yes the first sentence should have téigh in the conditional.

By the way, quite often to distinguish between the conditional and the conditional perfect, the past tense is used:

Dá bhfeicfinn é, labharfainn leis If I saw him, I would speak to him.
Dá bhfeicinn é, labhras leis If I had seen him, I would have spoken to him.

Although I think the Caighdeán uses Dá bhfeicfinn é, labharfainn leis for both.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

Would that be Munster English dialect?

Ha! Woops, fixed.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

Go raibh maith ag an mbeirt agaibh!

Níl an Ghaeilge an-shonrach i n-abairtí choinníollacha mar sin, i gcomparáid leis an mBéarla?

Da bhfeicfinn é, labharfainn leis If I saw him, I would talk to him
Dá bhfeicfinn é, labharfainn leis If I see him, I would talk to him
Dá bhfeicfinn é, labharfainn leis If I had seen him, I would have talked to him

Níl mé ag gearán (déanfadh na habairtí coinníollacha sa Fhraincís agus sa Spáinnis tinneas duit!), ach níor thug mé é faoi ndeara riamh!

Féach thuas.

Bealach eile le breathnú air, seans beag:
If we hadn't gone to the same place on Erasmus, I wouldn't have known her at all.
Aithne ar bith ní bheadh agam uirthi, murar rud é gur chuig an áit chéanna ar Erasmus a bhí muid théis imeacht.
If we had gone to the same place on Erasmus, I would have known her a lot better.
Is i bhfad níos fearr an aithne a bheadh agam uirthi, dá mba rud é gur chuig an áit chéanna ar Erasmus a bhí muid théis imeacht.

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Bí cinnte de go nglacfaidh triúr le gach aistriúchán a thabharfar.
Be sure to get three in agreement with a translation given.

That's an alternative way to say it in Conemara too.



Another way to say that, further West in Conamara -
Marach go ndeachaigh muid ...
If we hadn't gone....

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It is recommended that you always wait for three to agree on a translation.
I speak Connemara Irish, and my input will often reflect that.
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