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 Post subject: Ó Sé/ Ó Séadha srl
PostPosted: Wed 06 Mar 2013 11:39 pm 
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Cad iad na seanlitriúcháin a thá agaibh ar an sloinne..."Ó Sé"

Ó Seadha, Ó Séagdha? agus an mbíonn síneadh fada má tá na litreacha eile ann?


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 2:45 am 
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Mac Lysaght cites Ó Séaghdha (hawklike or stately)


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 12:09 pm 
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Míle baochas a chara


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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013 8:47 pm 
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"Ó Sé" is just a bare phonetic spelling which strips the name of it's meaning and dignity.
One might as well write it "o: ʃe:" or simply stick with the English phonetic rendering "O'Shea". :)


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013 12:35 am 
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Muimhniseoir wrote:
"Ó Sé" is just a bare phonetic spelling which strips the name of it's meaning and dignity.
One might as well write it "o: ʃe:" or simply stick with the English phonetic rendering "O'Shea". :)



Thanks, have you other alternatives. I have Ó Séaghdha, Ó Séadha and the standard version Ó Sé.


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013 7:05 pm 
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Rossaí wrote:
Thanks, have you other alternatives. I have Ó Séaghdha, Ó Séadha and the standard version Ó Sé.

The only correct version to my knowledge is Ó Séaghdha. (Séaghdha = séagh "hawk" + the adjectival suffix -dha.)

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013 7:11 pm 
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Úsáidtear "Ó Sé" go forleathan leis, níos minicí ná a mhalairt ach táim baoch dod' mholadh.


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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013 12:58 pm 
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Murchadh wrote:
Rossaí wrote:
Thanks, have you other alternatives. I have Ó Séaghdha, Ó Séadha and the standard version Ó Sé.

The only correct version to my knowledge is Ó Séaghdha. (Séaghdha = séagh "hawk" + the adjectival suffix -dha.)

I think the problem lies in lazy speech.
Obviously the name should be pronounced:
uwa Séyáh. (póg)
If you say Ó Sé, sooner or later, someone will write Ó Sé.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013 8:45 pm 
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Lazy speech? I wouldn't say so. No more than the modern pronunciation /glostər/ or /glostə/ for "Gloucester" could be called lazy speech anyway.
Proper nouns seem more susceptible to simplification in pronunciation than ordinary words.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2013 3:26 am 
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"Ó Sé" is the common form now, regardless of all the other forms. I'm looking for other spellings, if people have them? If not, no problem, but correct forms?...spare me Conradh na Gaeilge.


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