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PostPosted: Tue 12 Nov 2013 10:37 am 
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patrickjwalsh wrote:
I'm not clear why some apparently strong Gaeltacht areas, like Mayo, did just go and collapse. What causes some areas to do better than others even under the current policy mix? Is it local enthusiasm or what? Not all areas are declining at the same rate.

A perfect example is Uíbh Ráthach, in the late 19th century it in fact had more native speakers than Corca Dhuibhne. I have often wondered why Irish didn't survive in Bearra.

Irish in Mayo is now very weak. I was there this summer, spent a week in the Gaeltacht there. There is essentially no Irish in the Belmullet penninsula outside of people in the >70 age range. There are still middle-aged people who speak Irish in Cill Ghallagáin and Ceathrú Thaidhg and I heard some children speak it. It seems to me that these two villages are really all that is left of the Mayo Gaeltacht.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Nov 2013 9:29 pm 
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I'm afraid the problem is this: people don't care.
Many native speakers don't care about their language, they don't care about their children speaking it, they don't care about the language & culture disappearing. Same here in Brittany.
Here, grandparents know it but don't use it much because they don't care; their children understand it but usually don't speak and don't want to either because they don't care. Their grandchildren don't understand it, don't speak it and they don't care.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Nov 2013 11:14 pm 
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patrickjwalsh wrote:
so we are moving into a new phase where the language movement, probably wrongly, thinks it doesn't need the Gaeltacht.
I'm not sure that it's a case of not needing the Gaeltacht; I think people fear that they cannot depend on the Gaeltacht definitely surviving. The fact that the language seems to be gaining momentum outside of the Gaeltacht will hopefully lead to a greater, not lesser, appreciation of Gaeltacht speakers. I firmly believe the walls/barriers between speakers inside and outside the Gaeltacht are coming down because such a mixture of speakers are now available on radio and television. :party:

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Nov 2013 1:10 am 
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Irish in Mayo is now very weak. I was there this summer, spent a week in the Gaeltacht there. There is essentially no Irish in the Belmullet penninsula outside of people in the >70 age range. There are still middle-aged people who speak Irish in Cill Ghallagáin and Ceathrú Thaidhg and I heard some children speak it. It seems to me that these two villages are really all that is left of the Mayo Gaeltacht.


Yes I was in Ceathrú Thaidhg during the summer, it does seem to be the only fíor-Ghaeltacht left in the whole county!

Theres still Irish left around Blacksod but its hidden.


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