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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2014 5:43 am 
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Has anyone done the Liam O'Maoinlai / Irish / Sunday Independent Newspaper free online course?

It is parrot fashion learning, without the background grammar, but I enjoyed the first 12 lessons.
Cannot do the second course without a transcript to read. So I transcribed it into English fine - absolutely willing to share about 400 sentences - but catching all of the GM words defies me.

Using the online translator helped a little - but there are about 1/3 sentences with a word or two missing.
Having his audio guide was great.

A imirt duine ar bith?

Started the Duolingo course last night, seems good too.

JulieA


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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2014 3:27 pm 
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This might get more responses in the Irish section of the forum instead of the Scottish side.


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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2014 4:04 pm 
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I've moved this into the Irish forum.

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2014 6:49 pm 
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I enjoyed the course (someone sent it to me several years ago), and found it quite useful, but some of the English really cracked me up. For example, the way he pronounces "hobby" sounds like "hubby," so I nearly busted a gut when he said "I wish I had time for more hubbies"!

I don't normally laugh at differences in how people speak English, but the idea of poor Liam wishing he had time for more men in his life gets me every time!

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2014 11:49 pm 
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Hey Redwolf, remind me never to try out my Aussie/Irish accent on you then - still if everyone else has to suffer it, why shouldn't you!

Where does the lovely lilting Irish accent come from when English is spoken? I didn't expect to gain that exactly but it certainly doesn't sound to me to have sprung from the Gaeilge. I learnt some phrases on tour in Ireland last year that set me off on this obsession - but even "thankyou" and "how are you?" don't have the cadence that I expected.

Thanks for moving my request - I shall stumble around the forum for quite a while.

Have started the Duolingo course, but they keep testing on words that have not been covered .... even by Liam. But it drags any pre-knowledge out into being useful.

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Sep 2014 5:31 am 
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JulieA wrote:
Hey Redwolf, remind me never to try out my Aussie/Irish accent on you then - still if everyone else has to suffer it, why shouldn't you!

Where does the lovely lilting Irish accent come from when English is spoken? I didn't expect to gain that exactly but it certainly doesn't sound to me to have sprung from the Gaeilge. I learnt some phrases on tour in Ireland last year that set me off on this obsession - but even "thankyou" and "how are you?" don't have the cadence that I expected.

Thanks for moving my request - I shall stumble around the forum for quite a while.

Have started the Duolingo course, but they keep testing on words that have not been covered .... even by Liam. But it drags any pre-knowledge out into being useful.

JulieA


Oh the lovely accent definitely comes from Irish, and if you speak it long enough, you'll come home and everybody will be accusing you of having one!

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Sep 2014 7:31 pm 
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What haven't you got? I have twenty pages of transcription printed out that cover the first two CDs (Learn Irish) - at the end it says - "Congratulations! You have now completed all twelve lessons. After that there are two more CDs that go with Worksheets 1 to 5 (sixteen pages in colour).
I seem to remember that at the time somebody at the other place made a few comments about the words that he had to use and that at times he seemed to be quite amused or perhaps mystified by what he found himself having to say.


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The English of Ireland has probable influences from southwestern England, as that's where most of the settlers were transported from.

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franc 91 wrote:
What haven't you got? I have twenty pages of transcription printed out that cover the first two CDs (Learn Irish) - at the end it says - "Congratulations! You have now completed all twelve lessons. After that there are two more CDs that go with Worksheets 1 to 5 (sixteen pages in colour).
I seem to remember that at the time somebody at the other place made a few comments about the words that he had to use and that at times he seemed to be quite amused or perhaps mystified by what he found himself having to say.



Course 2 comes with worksheets - that seem to cover both first and second course - but I could not do anything of the course 2 without first seeing in print what the course work was - I need to see the words to retain any of it - so I transcribed the whole of Course 2. Some of the 400+ sentences I could not grasp what Liam ("my new best friend" lol family illnesses have taken me over much of NSW this year and Liam has been right there beside me all the way!) says. There were comments online from people who had trouble doing the worksheets and Course 2. I might just add to this forum sentences that have gaps in them and see if suggestions come - sometimes I amazed myself at spelling almost correctly sounds of words that I heard but had not seen before - dictionaries and online translators only helped to an extent


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Sep 2014 4:51 am 
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Thanks franc 91 - I have the Course 1 transcription - I think by course 2 they thought their target was refreshing Gaeilge for native Irish, perhaps not for total newcomers like me. So much depends on how good your CD player is at allowing replays. Liam often says a lot less than the online translator, and very different words. This system may not work at all, love to try though. Any suggestions? e.g.

FREE Course 2 lesson 1 sentence 12 (my numbering system - / / indicates gap)
12. I'd love to teach, do you enjoy your work?

Liam says: Ba mhaith liom / / muinteoir / / as la brea

Online Translator says: Ba mhaith lion gra a mhuineadh, a dheanann tu taitneamh a bhaint as do chuid oibre.


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